"Son, if the mountain was smooth you couldn't climb it."Wintley Phipps was told that by an old woman from the American south.
Here he talks about words written by John Newton, a slave trader before he became a Christian, and set to a melody he heard "coming up from the belly of a slave ship". The song is listed as words by Newton, melody by "unknown". You know it - Amazing Grace.
Phipps hopes when he goes to Heaven he'll meet that slave called "unknown". Perhaps Leann Rimes feels the same way: