Sunday, December 14, 2008

Tin foil

Weird fires that people in protective clothing can just walk through! Transmutation! Star Wars energy weapons that cause molecular dissociation! Dr Judy Wood explains all these things at The Journal of 9/11 Research and 9/11 Issues (Yes, there are issues with 9/11!!!).

Dr Wood believes that secret high-energy weapons destroyed the World Trade Centre on September 11 2001. I mention her because she is a source quoted by Andrew Johnson on his blog at 9/11 Researchers dot com. Mr Johnson also writes at OpEdNews, for example here where he reported on a 9/11 Truth meeting addressed by "Elias Davidsson, Icelandic Scholar and Human Rights Activist", who "founded the Icelandic chapter of the 9/11 truth movement".

Mr Davidsson's speech was followed by one from Dr Mohammed Naseem, chairman of the Birmingham Central Mosque. Dr Naseem explained that the official version of events on 9/11 and 7/7 were an insult to his intelligence and:

He went on to express his concern that the media was allowing these sorts of stories to be promulgated and that there were "4 organisations running the world" – the Bilderberg group, the Trilateral Commission, McKenzie and Co Public Relations, and Common Purpose.
Mr Johnson seems also to be associated with CheckTheEvidence.com, where you can read about pyramids on Mars, Cold Fusion, mysterious hurricanes that travel in straight lines, 7/7, the deliberate causation of climate change by squirting chemicals from aircraft, the military cover-up of UFO sightings and, of course, the real rulers of the world.

I mention Mr Johnson here because Ian Parker-Joseph did. Mr Parker-Joseph is the leader of the UK Libertarian Party. He reproduced this press release:
PRLog (Press Release) – Dec 11, 2008 – Andrew Johnson, an independent researcher not affiliated with any political party, group or association has recently sent letters to all 52 UK Police Chief Constables and 78 UK Military figures requesting they examine evidence relating to events on 9/11 and 7/7. He has also spoken out about the use of Common Purpose training by some of these organisations.
Parker-Joseph commented:
Now before we all start crying conspiracy, tin foil brigade, think on.
OK. I'm thinking...

Right. I've thought. Conspiracy! Tin foil brigade!

These are a bunch of crazed conspiracy loons dedicated to proving Blair's Law. Mr Johnson seems determined to mix all the world's conspiracy theories together into one enormous bowl of rancid gruel.

This does nothing to enhance the credibility of the UK Libertarian Party.

12 comments:

dearieme said...

"mysterious hurricanes that travel in straight lines": my God, that's a clever trick on the curved surface of the Earth. Do they burrow underground for a bit?

Anonymous said...

What about the evidence then?

Do you have a specific comment about points of actual evidence referenced on Johnson's website?

Do you have an alternative, viable explanation other than those presented?

IanPJ said...

This has everything to do with enhancing the credibility of the Libertarian Party.

As one of the few who do not blithely follow the official narrative which time and again has proven to be fabricated, spun and full of lies we are right to question those in power.

Who else is asking why is there no official enquiry into 7/7?

Who else is asking why public funds are being spent on a secret charity?

Only silly people invoke such arguments as 'Blairs Law' or 'Godwins Law', as we all know they are useful instruments to stifle debate on any particular issue.

It is time for an enquiry into 7/7.

If there is nothing to hide, there will be nothing to fear.

Peter Risdon said...

Blair's Law is a way of making fun of extremists, although it is odd how there has been a convergence of the loonies in recent years; Godwin's Law is a way of trying to deter idiotic references to Hitler and the Nazis during online discussions. Neither stifles debate.

Is the call for an enquiry into 7/7 - based on the ravings of a conspiracy theorist who thinks there are pyramids on Mars - official LPUK policy?

IanPJ said...

I lead the party, I don't make policy. The call is mine, which is why it is on my website rather than the LPUK one. Furthermore, it is something that I have been calling for since the incident.

and I will repeat, if they have nothing to hide, then they have nothing to fear with such an enquiry.

When someone such as myself dares to question the ever changing official story it is not a conspiracy, it is a genuine request for answers that have so far not been addressed.

My article highlighted the fact that someone had actually done something and made official complaints which now should be investigated.

Whatever your opinion of Andrew Johnson, I am not so quick to label those YOU would call conspiracy theorists, it was the same label given to Bob Woodward and Carl Bernstein.
(and no, that does not mean I agree with everything they say).

Would you support an enquiry? If not why not? Surely it can only be in the public interest to know all the facts, and would certainly put and end to these 'theories'.

But then I suppose it is so much easier to attack the individual rather than deal with the issue.

Peter Risdon said...

I'm sick of pointless public enquiries that waste millions of pounds and achieve absolutely nothing. The Bloody Sunday perpetual motion machine is a good example.

7/7 was a bombing attack by a bunch of British Jihadis. There have been other attempts since. There's nothing complicated or suspicious about it. People like Mohammed Naseem cleave to these conspiracy theories because they take the heat off the scandal of Jihadi preaching and culture in British mosques. In that way, the conspiracy theorists have joined with the religious extremists to make us all less safe.

In fact, the Middle East is full of government-encouraged conspiracy theories that act as a safety valve for despotic regimes.

Woodward and Bernstein are proper journalists who investigated a genuine conspiracy. There's no comparison with the fringes of Google Video.

Peter Risdon said...

Oh, and anonymous, I saw the page you came to this post from. Why not use your name? If you stand by these theories, there's nothing to be ashamed of.

Peter Risdon said...

Coincidentally, Counterknowledge today published a post containing fifteen questions for 9/11 truthers.

dearieme said...

If I were to adopt the nasty rhetorical tactics of The Left, I might refer to these looonies as "9/11 deniers".

Andrew Zalotocky said...

When someone such as myself dares to question the ever changing official story that there are no elves in my bread basket it is not a conspiracy, it is a genuine request for answers that have so far not been addressed. Namely, that the CIA put them there to steal my shoes.

I will repeat, if they have nothing to hide, then they have nothing to fear with such an enquiry into my random baseless assertions.

Whatever your opinion of the giant green pixies in my head, I am not so quick to label those YOU would call conspiracy theorists, it was the same label given to those crazy tramps who live in the dumpster outside Tesco.
(and no, that does not mean I agree with everything they say, except the bit about Elvis and the Martians).

IanPJ: If you understand anything about politics you should know that what you say in a personal capacity will inevitably reflect on how people see your party, and if you indulge in this fringe conspiracy nonsense you will just create the impression that LPUK is a bunch of nutters.

Peter Risdon said...

...if they have nothing to hide, then they have nothing to fear with such an enquiry into my random baseless assertions."

:-)

TDK said...

I'm at a loss to understand why the call is being made for an investigation conducted by the police/military. Surely these were in on the conspiracy?